Maynard Kischer Stojicevic partners Rudolf Kischer and Alex Stojicevic spoke to host Zack Spencer of CISL 650’s The Law Show about the Trump executive order banning travel in the United States and what it is, and how it is impacting those traveling from specific countries.
President Trump signed soon after he came into office, the executive order to ban people entering the USA from several countries.
“Essentially what the ban has done is it’s banned nationals from seven specific countries, some are middle eastern others are African or North African from entering the United States for 90 days regardless of whether or not hey’ve had visas issued to them,” explains Alex. “Citizens of those countries cannot apply for visas and citizens of those countries if they’ve been issued visas cannot use them.”
“The questions that we got in the first few days after the order was signed were, does this apply to green card holders and does this apply to dual citizens?” Alex says.
Video 1: What the Trump executive order travel ban has done
There seems to be some indication by the White House that they want to maintain this ban indefinitely beyond the 90 days.
“If you’re a person in the United States of Persian, Iranian, Iraqi or Syrian Arab origin regardless of your background all of a sudden you are now front centre,” Alex says. “They’re letting dual citizens in and letting green card holders in but they need to apply for a waiver and are being scrutinized in the process.”
“You have to convince the guy at the border that it’s in the national interest of the United States that if you come in, you’re not a threat to national security every time you come in,” says Rudolf. “You sort of lost that right, that presumption of innocence just because of what passport you hold.”
Video 2: Waivers and a scrutinized process at the USA boarder with the executive order travel ban
More people are coming north to of the border to try and get out of the United States under the new Trump administration.
“With the ban of the seven countries, they’re not allowed to process visas so these groups, people that that originate or are making a refugee claim from one of the seven countries already in the United States, are fearful either that they’re going to get deported, and Trump has also talked about speeding up deportations,” says Rudolf.
“Now the concern is after this order, are they going to get fair treatment and they’re not even allowed to be processed, there’s a 90-day ban on them actually being processed so they’re not able to actually make a claim,” says Rudolf.
Video 3: Fair treatment and processing issues with the Trump executive order travel ban
USA tech companies such as Google and Apple and other tech companies in the Silicon Valley have voiced that they need to have immigration and people coming from these seven countries, to build the things that everybody uses everyday.
“You’ve got three different groups. The first are people that are already in the system in the United States legitimately not refugee claimants, people who have completed a master’s in the United States, people who already are working on a work permit in the United States, who have now seen their hopes of getting a green card perhaps dashed, perhaps put on hold indefinitely, who are now looking at to Canada as a place to move to because they don’t want to go back to their home countries, because of either lack of opportunity or economic chaos or state failure and now they can’t stay in the United States,” explains Alex.
“Then a second group that has really been affected by this are companies in high tech and companies in other industries that are really what we would call knowledge worker industries, who have concerns about their employees. They don’t know what to do with this person who is the who is Iranian born who they have on an H1 visa or on a on a different type of visa in the United States who they’ve invested in who they’ve made a key part of their organization who now they can’t keep.”
Alex continues, “This ban all of a sudden meant that dozens of academics all over North America we’re not allowed to travel to conferences anymore, couldn’t even get on a plane, couldn’t be brought back. UBC and NSFU you have estimated that literally dozens of their academics, including PhD students, masters students, full professors are now not able to go to the United States”.
Video 4: Three groups that the Trump executive order travel ban effects
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